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Post by Jessica on Aug 4, 2021 14:26:21 GMT
My place of work has gone back to requiring masks indoors. They also took the step of requiring everyone to be vaxxed by the end of the month to work here. My team is actually 100% vaxxed, staff and athletes. But some of the other teams aren't in such good shape. One is only at 40% and they'd lose over half their roster.
Gonna be interesting when it comes time to enforce this because overall the entire organization is apparently only at about 30%.
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Post by Maria on Aug 7, 2021 9:30:04 GMT
I don't have a problem with still having to wear a mask (I mean I'd rather not have to, but ultimately it's not really a big imposition), but I disagree with places making vaccination compulsory. Like for me, I have a MASSIVE phobia of the delivery method and the only way I've made it through the past year is to be gentle with myself and to tell myself that I have a real reason why I can't get it. Every time I read something that makes it seem less likely that I will have a choice, I border on panic attacks. When I got the letter through inviting me to go get it, I had to run upstairs to throw up. In fact even just writing this now I've had to go get a jumper so my arms aren't uncovered because even though I am home alone and my house is locked... yeah, you get the picture lol.
But I think as well (and maybe I'm being generous here) that a lot of people have very real and valid concerns about them, as they were created so fast. I absolutely believe and trust the scientists when they say that their research shows them to be very safe, however if we're honest, their research only goes up to the short term. Even a medium time frame we cannot know for definite what will happen because they simply haven't existed for that long. I know that they can most likely extrapolate from what they know to be true from other similar ones, but no one can know for sure. And I think forcing someone to do something when they are genuinely worried about the long-term implications just isn't right :/
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Post by Jessica on Aug 7, 2021 16:27:45 GMT
So there are three exemptions to my organization's rule. 1- Religious. 2-Legitimate doctor approved health reason. 3-You can get a temporary stay. But once the FDA approves which could be as soon as next week #3 will no longer be an option.
I can't claim to be a doctor and say I understand how the vaccines were made. But from what I have heard/read is that one way they were able to be produced so quickly was that they were doing several things at the same time. For example, normally you would test the vaccine and then once it is approved you would produce it. In this case, they were testing and producing at the same time. So once it was approved they'd be ready to go. If it wasn't approved they would have had to throw it all out.
All I can say is that the numbers are rising yet again and the only way to defeat this before it mutates fully again is to get as many people vaccinated as possible. If Delta comes fully back and requires us to go into hiding again I will probably lose my job as big events will once again be cancelled including races. I barely avoided a furlough the first time. So I am all for what my organization is doing. Several vaccines are already required to work here or be an athlete. This is just another one added on. I totally understand your phobia and that really sucks, perhaps if you were working in my organization you might be able to get an a medical exemption for that. But we gotta get over this thing IMO.
The biggest reason why people aren't getting it is because republicans want to make a political point. And that is a real stupid reason to have a pandemic when we don't need to IMO.
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Post by Maria on Aug 7, 2021 19:16:52 GMT
I guess if it is adding to a list that already exists where you are then that is slightly different as you would know that requirement when you joined. And if you didn't have an issue with the others, you shouldn't have an issue with this, (barring possible concerns about any as-yet unknown long term effects). I agree that we don't want to go backwards, and from what you say about the reasons for people not doing it where you are I agree that that is absolutely flipping stupid. Like a lot of young people aren't getting it over here, I think because they assume that being young they'll be alright. If everyone who didn't have a genuine reason did actually do it, then there would be enough leeway for those who do have reasons to not need to. They are talking about bringing in Covid passports over here, which is just terrifying to me. Everyone who knows me agrees that the strength of my fear is absolutely genuine, but sadly our GP surgery is one of the worst in the country, and the chances of me seeing a doctor that I've ever seen before are extremely low and therefore it would completely be luck of the draw as to whether they see it that way or not
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Post by Lily on Aug 8, 2021 5:01:21 GMT
I guess if it is adding to a list that already exists where you are then that is slightly different as you would know that requirement when you joined. And if you didn't have an issue with the others, you shouldn't have an issue with this, (barring possible concerns about any as-yet unknown long term effects). I agree that we don't want to go backwards, and from what you say about the reasons for people not doing it where you are I agree that that is absolutely flipping stupid. Like a lot of young people aren't getting it over here, I think because they assume that being young they'll be alright. If everyone who didn't have a genuine reason did actually do it, then there would be enough leeway for those who do have reasons to not need to. They are talking about bringing in Covid passports over here, which is just terrifying to me. Everyone who knows me agrees that the strength of my fear is absolutely genuine, but sadly our GP surgery is one of the worst in the country, and the chances of me seeing a doctor that I've ever seen before are extremely low and therefore it would completely be luck of the draw as to whether they see it that way or not Maria, I'm sorry to read about your phobia. From what you have described in your posts it is most definitely real and genuine, and very strong. I have phobias myself, and know they can be hard to live with. It's very bad that you're unable to see a GP that you are familiar with. If you are unable to get any joy at all with your surgery, my recommendation would be to contact Mind. Perhaps you could phone them and explain your situation. They may be able to provide better advice as to alternative ways to get your phobia diagnosed. I phoned them recently and the woman I spoke to was very understanding and helpful. Their number is 0300 123 3393. Here's a link to their website Mind
I hope that is useful to you. You may have already considered or tried that option, but it's the only thing I can think of that might help. Take care, Sandi
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Post by Jessica on Aug 8, 2021 15:48:42 GMT
I am surprised to hear that certain vaxxes aren't required in the UK to go to public school or take public jobs/be in the armed forces. Is that what you are saying?
By the time most of us reach the age that we are taking a job over here we have all been vaxxed for several diseases (measels, mumps, shingles, etc) as kids that we only need to get boosters every once in awhile. It is how most of those diseases were eradicated. Is that not the law in the UK?
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Post by Maria on Aug 8, 2021 21:03:50 GMT
Unless I'm mistaken, no it is not the law. Certainly I've never been asked what I've had or to prove it. There again I don't think the anti-vax movement is as big over here (or certainly wasn't when I was growing up).
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