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Post by Jessica on Jun 30, 2021 16:56:26 GMT
I do the same thing with my wife sometimes. Sometimes I am legitimately into it and I don't have to, but sometimes I have to imagine I am on the receiving end. Sometimes she feels a little aggressive and goes on top. Those are my favorite times. I love when she is the man Does she do it often?
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Post by chloé on Jun 30, 2021 17:04:27 GMT
She goes often on the top because it’s the position she has maximum pleasure, when she is on the top I imagine she is the man. I tried with open legs and her between my legs, I love the sensation of me wide open and her as a man. But it is not confortable for her, she told me. Then, this position is very rare.
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Post by Lily on Jun 30, 2021 17:43:09 GMT
This conversation feels like we're all together at a pajama party. That we're all laying on the beds or floor, swapping stories and talking girltalk. In this scenario I am being very very quiet, constantly blushing and avoiding eye contact with everyone. Hey W-M, my question is this. Is this a topic you want to avoid, or is this something you want to talk about but are too shy to? Because if it is the latter I will coax it out of you! There is no topic that springs to mind that I wish to avoid as such. I feel amongst friends here so have no problem sharing as such. It's more about initiating. Obviously I'm very awkward talking about sexual matters, and though I've opened up a great deal about feelings and reflections on the past, that would be difficult to talk about, simply because i never have. That while we are all in the same boat when it comes to gender, I am most definitely not with sexual expression. Most of you are parents, and have or have had long-term relationships. The difference between yourselves and me goes far beyond vast. I am acutely aware of the staggering lack of experience I have on this, and am ashamed and embarrassed by that fact. There are a number of topics I think I'd like to talk about. The following spring to mind right now Earliest sexual awakening - connected with transformation Masturbation since new discovery Sexual repression linked with gender repression Am I doing this to to be the woman that I've never had Is it OK to fancy the female you? The conflicting drives of being a trans girl while also strongly desiring women sexually Bet you weren't expecting so many I would have trouble starting most of these topics. As I said it just feels so awkward to talk about, and especially given everyone else's far greater experience. Some of these are general, but others would be from my own experience and feel like they wouldn't apply to others - sexual awakening, sexual repression, becoming what you'd like to have. Woori-Mei
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Post by Maria on Jun 30, 2021 18:44:20 GMT
The two of those that I can answer quickest are the last three - I have things I could say on most of the others, but I think they may be more in-depth, and I need to get on lol! 1) I wondered similarly to this when I first started questioning. Not in quite the same way as I did have a partner, but intimacy of any kind had been dried up for quite a while by this point. So I wondered if I missed it and this was my way of feeling a connection to the feminine. However, when the rare times did then happen, those feelings didn't go away (and actually became quite intrusive at that specific moment), so I think it's fair to say that that wasn't the case. Maybe my mind was saying it could be that, because then there would be a "cure". 2) I don't see why not, although some context on exactly what you mean by "fancy" may help to unpick this. Do you mean that as an impartial and objective observer you acknowledge that you are an attractive woman (because you should ) Or do you mean in more of a sexual desire kind of way? If the latter, then that would sound a bit like autogynephilia, although by my understanding this has largely been discredited as a theory. Is it more when you are actually dressed up? If so, I gather that it is not at all uncommon for cis women to become slightly aroused when they know they are dressed up and looking good. 3) The easy one - they aren't conflicting at all Gender identity and sexual identity are completely different things. While it can happen that sexual orientation changes during the course of a gender transition, just as often it doesn't. Where it can get a little confusing (and maybe this is the scenario you mean actually, thinking about it...) is sexual attraction vs gender envy. When you see a woman and feel something, is it that you want to be WITH her, or is it that you want to BE her? Or both?! Certainly for me I have experienced all three numerous times, and as time has gone on I've got better at identifying whether it's the first or the second. When it's the third it's still a bit of a mind-bender though! I have read reddit posts on this topic though where cis lesbians have put forth their thoughts, and admitted that they can have this too!
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Post by Lily on Jun 30, 2021 20:58:11 GMT
My thoughts are
1) BEING YOUR OWN SURROGATE GIRLFRIEND This was a concern I had before comming here. Since then I've acknowledged all the other indicators that clearly show that this it isn't the case. Another point is that there are many other avenues to explore to get the companionship you long for, and that I have tried none of those. If lack of intimacy was the cause, surely I would have tried something more obvious like joining a dating agency for example.
2) FANCYING YOURSELF The image of myself looking as a woman is based solely on me. How I might have looked had I been pumped full of oestrogen. Therefore she is overweight as I am. After seeing that picture of the current me, the largest variant you might say. I began to imagine her/me in different outfits, just to get a fuller idea of the woman I'd be, make her more real, these included nightwear. I then realised that "Oh no! I am my own ideal woman!". My most recent discovery before coming here is that I am hugely turned on by chubby/plump women. Also as I've mentioned before I also love women wearing glasses too. Many of the women I've loved in my life have worn glasses, so it isn't because I do.
It's not that so much that I'm attractive as a woman, I'm my ideal woman, which I think is a significant difference. I don't think I'm aroused by it, and the idea of my male body making love to my female one does not appeal at all, it feels weird to just think about.
In the one major experience I had in dressing up, last week, I was not aroused at all. It was simply the euphoria of looking and feeling like a woman. So that isn't a concern
3) SEXUAL ATTRACTION VS GENDER ENVY. Yes that's that I meant. I'm not worried that it's wrong or weird, just that it's a bit of confusing when it happens. When it's all three the question it's "What do I do with this feeling, if anything?". Perhaps just enjoy it when it happens. I find it particularly with attractive transwomen. It's like woorimei.exe stops working for a few seconds. It's the extra bit of "I could actually be you too" or have been, in my case. I only recall having this experience while seeing a woman on the internet, on TV or in a movie. I don't think it's ever happened in real life, I can't think of any occaison right now. So I've never really had the need to work out which of the three it is.
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Post by Jessica on Jun 30, 2021 21:26:59 GMT
She goes often on the top because it’s the position she has maximum pleasure, when she is on the top I imagine she is the man. I tried with open legs and her between my legs, I love the sensation of me wide open and her as a man. But it is not confortable for her, she told me. Then, this position is very rare. I too imagine she is the man when she is on top. She likes being on top I think because she controls where I go inside and can hit all the right spots.
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Post by Jessica on Jun 30, 2021 21:35:00 GMT
Hey W-M, my question is this. Is this a topic you want to avoid, or is this something you want to talk about but are too shy to? Because if it is the latter I will coax it out of you! There is no topic that springs to mind that I wish to avoid as such. I feel amongst friends here so have no problem sharing as such. It's more about initiating. Obviously I'm very awkward talking about sexual matters, and though I've opened up a great deal about feelings and reflections on the past, that would be difficult to talk about, simply because i never have. That while we are all in the same boat when it comes to gender, I am most definitely not with sexual expression. Most of you are parents, and have or have had long-term relationships. The difference between yourselves and me goes far beyond vast. I am acutely aware of the staggering lack of experience I have on this, and am ashamed and embarrassed by that fact. There are a number of topics I think I'd like to talk about. The following spring to mind right now Earliest sexual awakening - connected with transformation Masturbation since new discovery Sexual repression linked with gender repression Am I doing this to to be the woman that I've never had Is it OK to fancy the female you? The conflicting drives of being a trans girl while also strongly desiring women sexually Bet you weren't expecting so many I would have trouble starting most of these topics. As I said it just feels so awkward to talk about, and especially given everyone else's far greater experience. Some of these are general, but others would be from my own experience and feel like they wouldn't apply to others - sexual awakening, sexual repression, becoming what you'd like to have. Woori-Mei Woori, you do what you are comfortable with. Under absolutely no circumstances do I want someone on here to feel pressured into talking about something they are not comfortable with. I'll start here with the first one. I used to sneak clothes from my sister's room and play dressup regularly when I was a kid. My sister is two years younger than me and so they never fit very well. I got caught at a very young age, I would say like 7 or 8, by my mom wearing my sister's clothes. I got away with it then because it was passed off as boyhood curiousity. I was very careful not to get caught again after that and I didn't. I only messed around when I was absolutely sure I would have the place to myself for a decent amount of time. She had a dress I absolutely loved myself in. One time I ripped it. I was so scared that I hid it in a bag, inside a bag, inside a backpack and threw it in a dumpster a long ways from my house like some sort of evidence from a crime scene. It never came up again. I was never really interested in porn as a kid until I stumbled upon fictionmania in the late 90s, early 2000s when I was 12 or so. Forced fem porn has really been the only porn I have been into since. I learned later that my parents knew someone was visiting that website, and have since assumed it was my brother since he is now openly gay. But it wasn't it was me
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Post by Lily on Jun 30, 2021 22:28:27 GMT
I don't feel pressurised in fact I'd like for it be coaxed / encouraged out of me TBH. In all seriousness perhaps one of you could interview me on this, like a Q & A or something.
That bit about the bag within a bag, you've carried on in that style ever since. Not that I blame you, I'm sure I've done something similar.
Wow how could you pass that off to your brother. I never ever did such a thing. Not much I didn't. Not on anything like that mind you.
I think I'll have to start some of those as threads now. They seem worthy of them in the Sexuality section.
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Post by Maria on Jun 30, 2021 23:07:38 GMT
Woori - that's interesting what you say about your ideal woman being very similar to what you look like. It's very similar for me, I have always been drawn to the slightly larger ladies. Also those who wear glasses - although that was the case even before I started needing them. Hmm, does this mean that on our hypothetical night out we'd be competing for the same girls?
Jess - I could never do something like that. Mostly because I don't have a brother lol. Your porn comments I'll reply to in a new thread in the sexuality section - probably better to go into more depth there than to put those sorts of details here!
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Post by Lily on Jun 30, 2021 23:35:04 GMT
I think if it was a competition you'd win on a walkover. All I'd be doing would be to try and look as adorable and approachable as possible. I was hoping they might compete for me instead It is hypothetical after all. Now that I think of it, I could really see myself starring in a harem anime.
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Post by Maria on Jul 1, 2021 17:30:29 GMT
I think if it was a competition you'd win on a walkover. All I'd be doing would be to try and look as adorable and approachable as possible. I was hoping they might compete for me instead It is hypothetical after all. Now that I think of it, I could really see myself starring in a harem anime. Hmm, I'm not sure. Never underestimate the power of social anxiety, awkwardness, and an inability to read the flirting cues of other women lol!
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Post by Jessica on Jul 2, 2021 2:03:38 GMT
I don't feel pressurised in fact I'd like for it be coaxed / encouraged out of me TBH. In all seriousness perhaps one of you could interview me on this, like a Q & A or something. That bit about the bag within a bag, you've carried on in that style ever since. Not that I blame you, I'm sure I've done something similar. Wow how could you pass that off to your brother. I never ever did such a thing. Not much I didn't. Not on anything like that mind you. I think I'll have to start some of those as threads now. They seem worthy of them in the Sexuality section. I really have carried on in that style haven't I? I am so ridiculously closeted I go to stupid lengths to stay that way.
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Post by Lily on Jul 2, 2021 13:09:42 GMT
Woori - that's interesting what you say about your ideal woman being very similar to what you look like. It's very similar for me, I have always been drawn to the slightly larger ladies. Also those who wear glasses - although that was the case even before I started needing them. Hmm, does this mean that on our hypothetical night out we'd be competing for the same girls? Jess - I could never do something like that. Mostly because I don't have a brother lol. Your porn comments I'll reply to in a new thread in the sexuality section - probably better to go into more depth there than to put those sorts of details here! Maria, In case you're interested my favourite artist of the erotica featuring these type of women is Kipteitei. Here's their deviantart page - KipTeiTei DeviantartW-M
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Post by Maria on Jul 2, 2021 17:27:51 GMT
Woori - that's interesting what you say about your ideal woman being very similar to what you look like. It's very similar for me, I have always been drawn to the slightly larger ladies. Also those who wear glasses - although that was the case even before I started needing them. Hmm, does this mean that on our hypothetical night out we'd be competing for the same girls? Jess - I could never do something like that. Mostly because I don't have a brother lol. Your porn comments I'll reply to in a new thread in the sexuality section - probably better to go into more depth there than to put those sorts of details here! Maria, In case you're interested my favourite artist of the erotica featuring these type of women is Kipteitei. Here's their deviantart page - KipTeiTei DeviantartW-M I quite like those 🙂 Some of them do make me think of myself though lol
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Post by Lily on Jul 2, 2021 18:18:23 GMT
You say that like it's a bad thing
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