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Jul 15, 2021 16:49:42 GMT
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Post by Maria on Jul 15, 2021 16:49:42 GMT
So can you explain what you think the difference is between euphoria and dysphoria in this context? Euphoria is an overwhelming positive emotion, dysphoria an overwhelming negative one. So it's possible that somebody could be trans however not experience much if any dysphoria over one or some issues. Because different people experience dysphoria as a result of different things and to different amounts, it is an unreliable indicator. However, the likelihood of somebody who is trans seeing themselves in clothing which matches their sense of self, or who gets gendered correctly for the first time, and then not feeling outrageously happy is slim to zero. Therefore because gender euphoria tends to be much more universal, it is a much more reliable sign that someone is indeed trans
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Post by Jessica on Jul 16, 2021 15:13:04 GMT
So can you explain what you think the difference is between euphoria and dysphoria in this context? Euphoria is an overwhelming positive emotion, dysphoria an overwhelming negative one. So it's possible that somebody could be trans however not experience much if any dysphoria over one or some issues. Because different people experience dysphoria as a result of different things and to different amounts, it is an unreliable indicator. However, the likelihood of somebody who is trans seeing themselves in clothing which matches their sense of self, or who gets gendered correctly for the first time, and then not feeling outrageously happy is slim to zero. Therefore because gender euphoria tends to be much more universal, it is a much more reliable sign that someone is indeed trans That is really interesting. I have always thought of dysphoria as either dysphoria or the lack of it, but I have never considered euphoria before. I definitely feel right and natural when I am en femme, although that rarely happens these days. Is it a euphoria? I don't know. But I have always thought of it as the feeling of wrongness or absence of it. Never considered the positive feelings. This is a new perspective.
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Post by Maria on Jul 22, 2021 12:53:49 GMT
Just to say from the off, this is not a "bad day" kind of post, but I wasn't sure where else to stick it (that's what she said) and it didn't feel "big" enough to warrant its own thread.
With it being hotter than the sun here at the moment (yes, I know it's not that hot comparatively, but we're really not used to it or equipped for it here), after dropping my daughter at her mum's yesterday I carried on up the road and went to the beach, figuring that it's always a bit cooler and breezier by the coast. I stayed for a couple of hours, and there weren't many people there. Just before I left though a couple arrived, and the woman had shall we say, a nice figure and a bathing suit that left very little to the imagination. As I was walking back to the car, I reflected on how I had perhaps given her more visual attention than I would be comfortable admitting, and felt really bad about that. But then I realised that at no point while doing so had I had any sexual thoughts. No "Corr what I'd like to do to her because I'm a man, HURR!" kind of thoughts. So my attention was entirely due to being envious of her figure, of just wanting (maybe almost needing) to see that body shape because if I look down... well it's not there. And then I felt a little less guilty. I then thought a little more in-depth about it and realised that actually, despite all the positives that I've mentioned, she really wasn't my type and I wasn't really attracted to her at all. Which just goes to support what I was thinking even more.
Just sharing this as I thought it was an interesting anecdote relating to some of things we've discussed recently.
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Post by Lily on Jul 22, 2021 13:34:05 GMT
That's a very interesting anecdote. It's good to determine the motivations for actions like those. As a trans girl that's attracted to women it can be difficult to know whether it's gender envy or horniness, or both.
It is far too hot for me too right now. It feels like a bit of a prison. I haven't wanted to dress up since the heatwave struck because I don't all my nice new clothes to get all covered in sweat. As a result I have been doubting myself a bit more.
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Post by Jessica on Jul 22, 2021 14:18:29 GMT
Maria I have that thought all the time. I catch myself oogling women and I probably seem like an old creeper. But I am really thinking about her clothes or what it would be like to be her.
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Jul 22, 2021 20:50:37 GMT
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Post by Maria on Jul 22, 2021 20:50:37 GMT
Jessica - I think for me it usually a mix of the two (attraction and envy), so for it to be so clear-cut under examination - that none of it was attraction and therefore all must be envy - was quite unusual for me.
Sandi Mae - I'm opposite to you at the moment then, in that this is one of the few perks of the heatwave. I have an excuse to keep the curtains closed during the day (to block out the heat) and therefore can wear whatever all day. Normally even on days where I can dress all day I have to pick something like a T-shirt which from a distance through the window doesn't look obviously feminine. Today though, I've had a dress on all day without having to worry about being seen and it has been heavenly. Happiest day I've had in a long while I would say. Felt completely feminine and at peace the whole day through. I know that I'm lucky in that I can choose when I do laundry though, so no one will see what I'm washing!
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Post by Lily on Jul 22, 2021 21:45:19 GMT
I can only dress in my room, and it just gets so hot and humid in here. I tried wearing a skirt earlier and even with the fan on it was too much. I have to go topless, and almost bottomless too.
This is as good as time as any to bring this up, but I rightly don't see my breasts as belonging to a man anymore. So it feels different without a top on than it used to do. When I cut my finger putting that picture frame together, I was topless at the time. I didn't want to put a shirt because I might get blood on it. Therefore I went downstairs to attend to the cut with my top half all exposed. Even before I would never go around the house without a shirt on, soI didn't really think about it at the time, but did later. I also realised that the top of my chest would look stubbly if they had really looked. Fortunately all those hairs are white so it doesn't really show, plus I'm not that hairy anyway.
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Jul 23, 2021 0:17:50 GMT
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Post by Maria on Jul 23, 2021 0:17:50 GMT
I kind of know what you mean by that, I think. Like at the beach yesterday, I felt very taboo when I took my top off. Because as a woman... well you just don't take your top off in public with nothing on underneath!
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Post by Jessica on Jul 23, 2021 14:33:29 GMT
Jessica - I think for me it usually a mix of the two (attraction and envy), so for it to be so clear-cut under examination - that none of it was attraction and therefore all must be envy - was quite unusual for me. Sandi Mae - I'm opposite to you at the moment then, in that this is one of the few perks of the heatwave. I have an excuse to keep the curtains closed during the day (to block out the heat) and therefore can wear whatever all day. Normally even on days where I can dress all day I have to pick something like a T-shirt which from a distance through the window doesn't look obviously feminine. Today though, I've had a dress on all day without having to worry about being seen and it has been heavenly. Happiest day I've had in a long while I would say. Felt completely feminine and at peace the whole day through. I know that I'm lucky in that I can choose when I do laundry though, so no one will see what I'm washing! Yeah I suppose that I feel that too. Sometimes a mixture, sometimes entirely jealously!
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